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Virgil Balibanu

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:45 am    Post subject: [SOLVED] Booting stops on a blank screen Reply with quote Report

When I boot into mandriva sometimes (actually now it's like all the times) my laptop stops with a blank screen. It's around the moment the NVidia logo should appear, my screen in blank then it goes off, does this a couple of times and then stays blank (for however long i let it) (from time to time is has a whote cursor top left).
Any ideea why this might happen?
I reinstalled mandriva 2009.1 about a week ago and I had this problem before that but now it's worse. It happened 20 times this morning without one success and now i'm in windows.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Boot rescue mode, which brings you to a minimal root terminal. Then run:

Code:
XFdrake


Change the driver to xorg nv, you have to scroll waaay down to find it. That will get you to a desktop when you reboot. If you want to mess around with the proprietary driver that's another matter. Video drivers in general are having lots of problems lately.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

escuse my lack of knowlege but how do i enter rescue? i mean when grub appears i press f1 then after the boot options text box appears i write rescue and hit enter, it still boot normally from the live cd. I've never done this before so what exactly am i supposed to do to enter rescue mode?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

There is no rescue mode on the live CD. Use the Free or PowerPack DVD.

Did you do a install with the live CD? Can you boot safe mode?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

ok, i found out on the irc channel that by adding a 3 to the and of the boot line i can get where i want. Not i chose xorg nv and tested the setting and it worked but when i startx i still only get a blank screen. Any ideeas?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

It doesn't come up when you reboot? Rather than startx a restart should work. It doesn't?

[EDIT] and you can also add "single" to the boot parameters, it comes up a lot faster and doesn't load as much stuff. No need to log in either.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

ok, i looked in /var/log and Xorg.0.log had no errors but i found Xorg.9.log now and it looks interesting, i believe this might be the cause. Here are the contents:
http://pastebin.com/m202a7dde

thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Try this, when booting, at the GRUB screen press F3 select "default" then press Enter, in the command line that appears type:
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speedboot=no

then press Enter, any difference? (this should work with both the nvidia proprietary driver and the nv driver).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

speedboot=no lets me see the mouse but after mandriva starts loading i get a white screen instead of a black one.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

I tried video=vesa and got the same white screen, and now it seems i get the white screen whatever i do. I can even see the cube and rotate it, just that everything except the top is white Very Happy
i searched this on google and found a lot of topics but no real solution. any ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Well, it looks like you narrowed it down - it is your video driver that is bad. I'd suggest getting a Linux video driver from the nVidia web site. You may need to compile your kernel first to get a properly configured environment for the driver to install though.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Virgil Balibanu wrote:
I tried video=vesa and got the same white screen, and now it seems i get the white screen whatever i do. I can even see the cube and rotate it, just that everything except the top is white Very Happy
i searched this on google and found a lot of topics but no real solution. any ideas?

Ah, the cube... so you enabled compiz fusion and it screwed the system over Smile

So boot the machine, then press Alt+Ctrl+F1 and login as root. Then load this:
Code:
drak3d

(it'll say your system doesn't support 3d desktop effects because the mechanism it uses to detect the 3d desktop availability won't work from text console), so just select OK and hit enter. Then load this to reconfigure your card:
Code:
drakx11

(this is XFdrake just all small letters), get back to the text console and restart the dm:
Code:
service -f dm
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

i tried the last solution and it works, thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

well, maybe i was wrong, it works just as long as i don't turn the 3d effect back on. I tried downloading the latest driver from nvidia, installed it but still the same with the exception that before when i ran drakx11 it asked me about a proprietary driver and i could install that one, but now it's failing so i can't use a proprietary driver any longer and I'm not particularly excited about how X is moving. Any other ideas about what I should do to correct this?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Yeah, X and video drivers are doing a bit of a dance, but one is doing a tango and the other the jitterbug.

One answer is "wait a year." I suspect things will get ironed out by then. I do like the direction they are going, even though it leaves all my hardware in the trash bin.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Very Happy not exactly what i wanted, well, i can live like this for a year, but probably i'll go back to using windows for work also.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

There's always cooker, or upstream, though you've tried upstream nvidia. But how these things are packaged for Mandriva can make a world of difference.

Might want to add cooker repositories, and occasionally enable them, including "testing" and "backports" and keep an eye out for potential fixes.

You can always roll back. Just make sure you disable those repos when not specifically looking for drivers. One "update" and you'd most likely be toast.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Virgil Balibanu wrote:
well, maybe i was wrong, it works just as long as i don't turn the 3d effect back on. I tried downloading the latest driver from nvidia, installed it but still the same with the exception that before when i ran drakx11 it asked me about a proprietary driver and i could install that one, but now it's failing so i can't use a proprietary driver any longer and I'm not particularly excited about how X is moving. Any other ideas about what I should do to correct this?

Well, now this is a problem, if you install the .run package you can't use XFdrake to use the proprietary driver, the .run replaces some system files with its own copies, so you should have uninstalled it first:
Code:
*.run --uninstall

Anyway to clear this mess, do this as root in terminal:
Code:
su
urpme -a nvidia

then reconfigure your card using XFdrake, it'll reinstall all the necessary nvidia packages.

Now for 3d desktop, the white screen is usually associated with compiz-fusion when you use Xgl not "native support", Xgl is dead and unmaintained upstream, so use only native support.

Also if you're using KDE4 then try the native KWin effects (after disabling compiz of course), they can be enabled from the KDE control centre> Desktop.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

yeah, works good with LWin, thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Great! If the issues in this topic are solved please edit your first post and add [Solved] to the subject line.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

seems that i was to excited, today i'm back at the beginning without compiz Sad (black screen with white cursor - can't start X i think)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

i find it interesting that i just need to write
Code:
service -f dm
and it works fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

Virgil Balibanu wrote:
i find it interesting that i just need to write
Code:
service -f dm
and it works fine.

This is with speedboot=no ?

If you're using speedboot=no and it still doesn't load the login screen then try switching to GDM. After you press Alt+Ctrl+F1 use this as root:
Code:
drakedm --expert

select GDM (it'll offer to install gdm if it's not already installed). Then reboot using Alt+Ctrl+Delete, see if it works without speedboot=no.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

i'm not using speedboot=no, in order go get to the console I boot adding a 3 to the end of the boot line. If i don't and i let it boot normally it stops at the black screen (Alt+Ctrl+F1 does not work). I will try with speedboot=no again and with gdm if that does not work and come back with an answer. Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Report

GDM seems to work fine so far. Any ideas about what's wrong then? Should i stay with GDM and forget about fixing the rest?
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