Problem re-installing GRUB

saurabh nigam · Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: Problem re-installing GRUB

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Germ · Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:39 am Post subject:

Boot a live CD and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst

Remove all the UUIDs and replace them with the actual dev name as in /dev/sda1, etc.

Then boot your mandriva DVD and reinstall grub.

Hopefully that will work and you didn't hose anything running fsck. error 17 basically means that grub can't find the partition you want it to boot.
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saurabh nigam · Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: Problem reinstalling bootloader

Hi germ
I tried that with a Damn Small Linux live cd but i got the menu.lst full of dsl entries title & a single entry for my Windows bootloader

Well i went back to mandriva DVD & tried
this

Germ · Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject:

Boot the DVD and choose Rescue, then reinstall grub from the menu.
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Logos7 · Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

if the rescue thing doesn't work and/or the editing of menu.lst is a problem, you can always fake an upgrade with the DVD, this will do nothing but, once the setup "realizes" there's no package to install, just reinstall the booloader. This always works.

linux oid · Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject:

"grub-0.92-7.i386.rpm" ?

What Mandriva are you going to boot with it?
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teknokraft · Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:22 am Post subject:

Yep. That is a tad on the old side.

saurabh nigam · Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:28 am Post subject:

To @Germ
I tried using Rescue menu its output is there in my first post

Logos7 · Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:25 am Post subject:

saurabh nigam · Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:33 am Post subject:

I dont see any upgrade option Logos7
How to do it
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Logos7 · Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:12 am Post subject:

saurabh nigam · Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:57 am Post subject:

I am using Mdandriva 2009.0 DVD

I also tried Super grub Disk
but got following errors
Error 15
/etc/fstab/ not found
/boot/grub/menu.lst not found
Sad

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Logos7 · Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:12 am Post subject:

saurabh nigam · Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject:

Well everything seems to fail now
All efforts in vain
So i think I should reinstall my Mandriva
Can i get back my previous softwares & configurations ?

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Logos7 · Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject:

linux oid · Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:35 am Post subject:

I'm using Dual CD for installation and it has an option to upgrade. I'd assume DVD should have the option as well.

I have 2009.0 installed and it always ask me to upgrade.

Well, I've never upgraded.
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saurabh nigam · Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 4:48 am Post subject:

Will re-installing Mandriva will set my root device for grub?
I was re-installing it & foundin the "PARTITION" menu
that there were 3 partitions namely

saurabh nigam · Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 9:27 am Post subject:

I used mandriva rescue cd to show output of fdisk -l

Bastian Angerstein_1 · Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:

you are not the only one having trouble with mandriva+grub+ rare location of linux bootdrive.

It looks like even 2009.1 as some issues with partition management and boot manager configuration. see my call for support or my threads.

I actually can´t figure out on what drive mandirva thinks it is installed.
I installed it to sdj but now it looks like that / (root) is sitting on sdc5. ????
I am confused... and then there is an issue with the created mbr. it should be of a file system type 15 (extended) but it is set to 5 (this type is called extended,too) which increases my confusion to a level at which I not longer can recommend mandriva in my upcoming article linux4newbies. and this would be very sad.

This issues have to be investigated and analysed soon. Because nobody is interessted in a linux which removes the wrong partition and then get lost on a unknown partition.

The rescues mode is actuelly much to primitive to be a real help.

rolfp · Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:23 am Post subject:

Bastian Angerstein_1 · Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:06 am Post subject:

tell me how to access a sata device with mandriva One live cd. Maybe you have not noticed that internal medias are by default made NOT accessable from a LiveCD. Because this would be a security issue.
So I have no access to the data from a live cd and no possibilities to rescue. (all info on my issue is found in case 107520 )

grude tools... pah... let me lol a round... linux comes with the sticker on it "this may damage your system!". (Even windows does.)

(grub cant count to 10 and mixes up two different types of extended filesystems) leads only to chickening around instead of helpful reply.

"do stupid things and expect a dumb machine to make it all better" ->ok your point, but newbies do such things, because of a lag of knowledge not stupidity. and what about user friendliness? Looks like many people in the community think userfriendliness is unprofessionel. (Mandriva is much more userfriendly then any other linux distri I installed. I even pushed my wife to use it, because i am sat of repairing her windows on a daily base.... but is this already enough? Nope.) I don´t think so. Sure i am a programmer and no nurse, but i don´t write on my guns "pointing me on your head *might* result in *interesting* experiences. (Don´t be a chicken, give it a try!)"

Normaly I use Debian, Gentoo and Win64. I startet over 10 years ago with suse 5.0. Sure, its a little bit more "heavy stuff", but this software does in my case simply works.

Its a fact that mandriva should rethink the "eaze of use" politics in a manner that errormessage like "Cant do it." are replaced with the original message reported by the tools or syslog. (And than can be enhanced by helpful information. Even MS learned it.) It cant be so hard to read from STDERR... Or they should do a much strikter "idiot proofed" testing of there software. Hell, I guess we two are not the only people on the planet installing mandriva not on hda1, are we?

If you take a look in my post (107520 9, you will notice, that in the partitioning and boot manager process has some issues. If we admit that, we can go on with troubleshooting. One of them is that after shrinking (resizing) (large?) partitions, any created new partitions can´t be formated by the mandriva toolset. The other thing is that there are errors in the process of creating the grub config file(, because hdds are not uniquely identified, the developer might have thought identifing them by their position in the array is a good idea, but device-indexing in todays x86 systemes behave much more like a hash. The position of a device is not guarenteed, even if I admit that the strcture *looks* stable most of the time->Uraniums and Plutoniom does the same... they look stable... most of the time... it would really be a great idea to look at what is in the bottle, before start drinking).

I am willing to improve the errors I run into and give every info I could figure out. -but I will not start hunting bugs in posix c sourcecode authored not by me in my sparetime.

rolfp · Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:01 am Post subject:

Bastian Angerstein_1 · Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject:

Thats exactly the ghost of unprofessionalism that makes linux a toy not a tool. Thx for your bombastic add to the community.

PS: Take a look at your screenshot again... Laughing

And FUD Yourself!

saurabh nigam · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:24 am Post subject:

well i m going to re-install mandriva coz i love it
is there any way that i can store my softwares installed on my current (crashed)mandriva & can reuse them on my newly installed mandy
coz i dont wanna lose all my updated softwares
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